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	<title>Comments on: Pre-Raid Hunter Gear Guide &#8211; Updated For 3.3</title>
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		<title>By: Gears Manufacturers</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-5573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gears Manufacturers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing with us. If anyone required industrial then come to Ashoka Group, and get all type of quality gears at competitive rates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing with us. If anyone required industrial then come to Ashoka Group, and get all type of quality gears at competitive rates.</p>
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		<title>By: eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-5502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s fixed now.  Thanks for the catch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fixed now.  Thanks for the catch.</p>
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		<title>By: Revoo</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-5500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Revoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice list! Was looking for a decent one :)

Btw, with head pieces:

	5	Horns of the Spurned Val’kyr

It has 56 hit. In this list you put 0.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice list! Was looking for a decent one :)</p>
<p>Btw, with head pieces:</p>
<p>	5	Horns of the Spurned Val’kyr</p>
<p>It has 56 hit. In this list you put 0.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Leveling at the End of Wrath &#171; OutDPS!</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-5293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hunter Leveling at the End of Wrath &#171; OutDPS!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Make a plan for your gear.  Here at the end of the expansion, all gear is known and so you can plot a fully-informed course for efficient emblem expenditures and drop-seeking. For help with gear planning, check out OutDPS&#8217;s pre-raid gear guide. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Make a plan for your gear.  Here at the end of the expansion, all gear is known and so you can plot a fully-informed course for efficient emblem expenditures and drop-seeking. For help with gear planning, check out OutDPS&#8217;s pre-raid gear guide. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zarrosh</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-5172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zarrosh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Came across this list while at work, and due to the hours I work its impossible to raid, so having a list like this is a godsend, HC farming will never be so easy for me now. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across this list while at work, and due to the hours I work its impossible to raid, so having a list like this is a godsend, HC farming will never be so easy for me now. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: 3.3 BiS for Feral Tanks and Holy Paladins (No hardmodes) + Pre Raid Hunter Gear</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3.3 BiS for Feral Tanks and Holy Paladins (No hardmodes) + Pre Raid Hunter Gear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] one of these, but I nearly blew my head up in the attempt, so instead I&#8217;m just going to link OutDPS&#8217;s list. Its awesome, and in-depth, and way better than anything I could come up with, go look at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of these, but I nearly blew my head up in the attempt, so instead I&#8217;m just going to link OutDPS&#8217;s list. Its awesome, and in-depth, and way better than anything I could come up with, go look at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two of the rules for the list that I&#039;ll try to make more explicit in future versions are that the gear should not require setting foot in a raid or require huge amounts of money.  Those rules are kind of unrealistic regarding what hunters actually do (they may get VoA or weekly raid drops while still gearing up for the latest content, for example).  However, the rules are I think the appropriate places to limit the list as they leave only items that don&#039;t require delving extensively into different ways of playing the game (pvping, AHing, raiding).

Personally, though, I agree with you that farming rep for that ring is a good way to go (and a good way to learn how raid trash can be different from dungeon trash).  The money put to the Kirin Tor ring might be better spent (thinking long-term) on some Rock-Steady Treads though, owing to the existence of the Ashen Verdict ring, the 245 emblem ring and agility rings dropping early in both toc and icc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of the rules for the list that I&#8217;ll try to make more explicit in future versions are that the gear should not require setting foot in a raid or require huge amounts of money.  Those rules are kind of unrealistic regarding what hunters actually do (they may get VoA or weekly raid drops while still gearing up for the latest content, for example).  However, the rules are I think the appropriate places to limit the list as they leave only items that don&#8217;t require delving extensively into different ways of playing the game (pvping, AHing, raiding).</p>
<p>Personally, though, I agree with you that farming rep for that ring is a good way to go (and a good way to learn how raid trash can be different from dungeon trash).  The money put to the Kirin Tor ring might be better spent (thinking long-term) on some Rock-Steady Treads though, owing to the existence of the Ashen Verdict ring, the 245 emblem ring and agility rings dropping early in both toc and icc.</p>
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		<title>By: scaresome</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-4131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scaresome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terrific guide. I&#039;ve looked at this list several times as I&#039;ve been gearing up. I was surprised when I thought I had arrived and that there was ... one more drop to try and find!

I wonder two things: The Runed Band of Kirin Tor can be bought up at any time and seems to be an upgrade, might it have a place on your list? 

The other is that I see people running ICC rep for the Ashen Verdict rings. I&#039;ve not done it on my hunter but I have on my healer and it was pretty easy to get Friendly, maybe five runs? It seems that this might also be an option as a pre-raid strategy. 

All else being said; a big thank you for this wonderful resource!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific guide. I&#8217;ve looked at this list several times as I&#8217;ve been gearing up. I was surprised when I thought I had arrived and that there was &#8230; one more drop to try and find!</p>
<p>I wonder two things: The Runed Band of Kirin Tor can be bought up at any time and seems to be an upgrade, might it have a place on your list? </p>
<p>The other is that I see people running ICC rep for the Ashen Verdict rings. I&#8217;ve not done it on my hunter but I have on my healer and it was pretty easy to get Friendly, maybe five runs? It seems that this might also be an option as a pre-raid strategy. </p>
<p>All else being said; a big thank you for this wonderful resource!</p>
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		<title>By: eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the tip.  As for hit rating, the guide provides a listing of hit precisely so that people can budget it effectively.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip.  As for hit rating, the guide provides a listing of hit precisely so that people can budget it effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: aox</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-3975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[from what i can see if u got this gear u way over hit capped and whit arena s8 out u can get a very nice wrist from honnor (hand in ur stone keeper shards too get it)u&#039;ll lose 7 agi but gain alot off crit and ap..
just a thought]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from what i can see if u got this gear u way over hit capped and whit arena s8 out u can get a very nice wrist from honnor (hand in ur stone keeper shards too get it)u&#8217;ll lose 7 agi but gain alot off crit and ap..<br />
just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: JJohnson</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-3716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t tell you the number of times I&#039;ve referenced this page for gearing up my new main. So a big thank you for putting this up!

Now if I can ever get a new stat stick to drop. Right now I&#039;m very sad that I haven&#039;t gotten one to drop.  Still stuck with an iLevel 175...maybe tonight!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell you the number of times I&#8217;ve referenced this page for gearing up my new main. So a big thank you for putting this up!</p>
<p>Now if I can ever get a new stat stick to drop. Right now I&#8217;m very sad that I haven&#8217;t gotten one to drop.  Still stuck with an iLevel 175&#8230;maybe tonight!</p>
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		<title>By: Raiding as a BM Spirit Beast wielding Hunter &#171; Guntitan</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-3628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raiding as a BM Spirit Beast wielding Hunter &#171; Guntitan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Pre-Raid Hunter Gear Guide – Updated For 3.3 Update: Hunter Loot from ICC 5-Mans [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tinliin</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-3601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tinliin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great guide. I wish I have discovered it a few month ago...

Question: Will not be Darkmoon Card: Undeath a beter choice than Mark of Supremacy? 

I have MoS, but is annoying that you must keep track of it. And because of his 2 min cooldown, I can use it on HCs only against bosses, macroed with Rapid Fire. While it saves me 3 talent points (I am Survival), it does provide only about 82 dps increase every 2 min. 

Meantime, DMC: Undeath has an internal CD of 45 sec (as DMC:G) and provide:
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Darkmoon Card: Death
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Trinket
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 85 (1.85% @ L80).
Equip: Each time you deal damage, you have a chance to do an additional 1750 to 2250 Shadow damage.
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So, to compare, in that 2 min period, MoS gives you for 20 sec a 82 DPS increase which is about 1640 damage. While DMC:U (beside the permanent almost 2% crit increase) gives two and an half free shots of an average 2k shadow damage each. And I am not counting the expected crit of 50-60% I usually have. Also, I am not counting that those shots hit even if the target is out of range or if you are jumping or hoping or moving or being impaled by some nasty bosses.

So, what do you think? Does my math slack or it this Card better?

P.S. Starting raiding a week ago, I have replaced Needle-Encrusted Scorpion with Whispering Fanged Skull and this weekend I will replace MoS with Greatness card. But I have just discovered Undeath card and now I regret I didnt knew about it sooner. And I still have doubts if it is not better to replace Whispering Fanged Skull with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great guide. I wish I have discovered it a few month ago&#8230;</p>
<p>Question: Will not be Darkmoon Card: Undeath a beter choice than Mark of Supremacy? </p>
<p>I have MoS, but is annoying that you must keep track of it. And because of his 2 min cooldown, I can use it on HCs only against bosses, macroed with Rapid Fire. While it saves me 3 talent points (I am Survival), it does provide only about 82 dps increase every 2 min. </p>
<p>Meantime, DMC: Undeath has an internal CD of 45 sec (as DMC:G) and provide:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Darkmoon Card: Death<br />
Binds when picked up<br />
Unique-Equipped<br />
Trinket<br />
Requires Level 80<br />
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 85 (1.85% @ L80).<br />
Equip: Each time you deal damage, you have a chance to do an additional 1750 to 2250 Shadow damage.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>So, to compare, in that 2 min period, MoS gives you for 20 sec a 82 DPS increase which is about 1640 damage. While DMC:U (beside the permanent almost 2% crit increase) gives two and an half free shots of an average 2k shadow damage each. And I am not counting the expected crit of 50-60% I usually have. Also, I am not counting that those shots hit even if the target is out of range or if you are jumping or hoping or moving or being impaled by some nasty bosses.</p>
<p>So, what do you think? Does my math slack or it this Card better?</p>
<p>P.S. Starting raiding a week ago, I have replaced Needle-Encrusted Scorpion with Whispering Fanged Skull and this weekend I will replace MoS with Greatness card. But I have just discovered Undeath card and now I regret I didnt knew about it sooner. And I still have doubts if it is not better to replace Whispering Fanged Skull with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-3481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this guide. I am one of two hunters in my guild and no one could tell me where I could go to find new boots. I have been in all triump and it is good to know I can finally look forward to getting Epic! Thank you. Also does anyone know if there is a guild like this for Mages? I am looking to hook my wife up with some better gear and all my guild says is it is all crafted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this guide. I am one of two hunters in my guild and no one could tell me where I could go to find new boots. I have been in all triump and it is good to know I can finally look forward to getting Epic! Thank you. Also does anyone know if there is a guild like this for Mages? I am looking to hook my wife up with some better gear and all my guild says is it is all crafted.</p>
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		<title>By: Hit-Rating, I&#8217;m just not that in to you &#171; The Wayward Initiative</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hit-Rating, I&#8217;m just not that in to you &#171; The Wayward Initiative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] OutDPS has put together a simple yet comprehensive gear list that also lists the amount of hit the gear gives you.  With it, I’ve used to identify upgrades [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] OutDPS has put together a simple yet comprehensive gear list that also lists the amount of hit the gear gives you.  With it, I’ve used to identify upgrades [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alar</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the new dungeons have nothing for my hunter I need I&#039;ve been running the new instances alot in PUGs to gear up my alt warrior tank, and can say that the packs of 5+ can be an absolutte bugger to tank so for the love of god please please use your misdirect. If youre planning on raiding you should have a MD macro, so why not get one now. A simple one to start with is:

/tar TANK
/cast misdirect
/targetlasttarget

Just swap TANK with the name of the tank at the begining of the instance it takes like 3 secs to set up and will really help you and your tank out. Just cast it before the pull then after the tank has started you can multi shot then volley]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the new dungeons have nothing for my hunter I need I&#8217;ve been running the new instances alot in PUGs to gear up my alt warrior tank, and can say that the packs of 5+ can be an absolutte bugger to tank so for the love of god please please use your misdirect. If youre planning on raiding you should have a MD macro, so why not get one now. A simple one to start with is:</p>
<p>/tar TANK<br />
/cast misdirect<br />
/targetlasttarget</p>
<p>Just swap TANK with the name of the tank at the begining of the instance it takes like 3 secs to set up and will really help you and your tank out. Just cast it before the pull then after the tank has started you can multi shot then volley</p>
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		<title>By: Omogon</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Omogon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes...I&#039;ll add my two cents worth to fully agree. I have a helm from an Ony run sitting  in the bank. It has nice stats but if I equip it and lose a set bonus I&#039;ll drop DPS. Use the spreadsheet !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes&#8230;I&#8217;ll add my two cents worth to fully agree. I have a helm from an Ony run sitting  in the bank. It has nice stats but if I equip it and lose a set bonus I&#8217;ll drop DPS. Use the spreadsheet !</p>
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		<title>By: Eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re welcome!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, definitely.  Rankings of available gear and evaluations of optimal personal dps are two different things.  The table only provides a loose ordering of individual gear pieces by slot, with no consideration of gear combinations, spec, pet, etc.  Those things will vary by hunter, and have to be accounted for by individual hunters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, definitely.  Rankings of available gear and evaluations of optimal personal dps are two different things.  The table only provides a loose ordering of individual gear pieces by slot, with no consideration of gear combinations, spec, pet, etc.  Those things will vary by hunter, and have to be accounted for by individual hunters.</p>
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		<title>By: Talos</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Talos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a great list, and represents a lot of hard work, so thanks for putting it together.

However, I want to strongly encourage folks to make use of the Hunter Spreadsheet website (femaledwarf.com) to make sure the top upgrades are the right upgrades for YOU.  There are several cases here where I&#039;m wearing #2 or 3, but #1 would be a DPS downgrade for me.   Use this as a guildline, but check before you buy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great list, and represents a lot of hard work, so thanks for putting it together.</p>
<p>However, I want to strongly encourage folks to make use of the Hunter Spreadsheet website (femaledwarf.com) to make sure the top upgrades are the right upgrades for YOU.  There are several cases here where I&#8217;m wearing #2 or 3, but #1 would be a DPS downgrade for me.   Use this as a guildline, but check before you buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bliitz</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bliitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2863</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I love this guide. It&#039;s already helped me more than I can say with knowing where I stand as far as gear goes. Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this guide. It&#8217;s already helped me more than I can say with knowing where I stand as far as gear goes. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: euripidesoutdps</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[euripidesoutdps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that this is Eidotrope&#039;s work, not mine :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that this is Eidotrope&#8217;s work, not mine :)</p>
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		<title>By: eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gah, thanks for catching that.  It&#039;s fixed now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah, thanks for catching that.  It&#8217;s fixed now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t include those rings and other things because you can&#039;t obtain them reliably year round.  If I included all such items I think it&#039;d lead to a clutter and confusion in a list that is already pretty long.  You&#039;re right, though, that some of those pieces can be good pre-raid gear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t include those rings and other things because you can&#8217;t obtain them reliably year round.  If I included all such items I think it&#8217;d lead to a clutter and confusion in a list that is already pretty long.  You&#8217;re right, though, that some of those pieces can be good pre-raid gear.</p>
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		<title>By: 1337</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1337]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great resource! I will put this to good use while gearing my hunter. On a side note, the Dexterous Brightstone Ring is bought for 35 Emblems of Triumph, not 45.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great resource! I will put this to good use while gearing my hunter. On a side note, the Dexterous Brightstone Ring is bought for 35 Emblems of Triumph, not 45.</p>
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		<title>By: Blunt</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blunt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2830</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Great Update Euripides,

I was wondering if it might be useful to include Holiday Drops,

for example 
Ring of Ghoulish Glee (from Headless Horseman) could deserve a spot in your Ring selection?

I know you want easily accessible items, but 
Just in case people are reading this at those times and thinking of skipping Holiday achievements.

Loving the podcasts too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Update Euripides,</p>
<p>I was wondering if it might be useful to include Holiday Drops,</p>
<p>for example<br />
Ring of Ghoulish Glee (from Headless Horseman) could deserve a spot in your Ring selection?</p>
<p>I know you want easily accessible items, but<br />
Just in case people are reading this at those times and thinking of skipping Holiday achievements.</p>
<p>Loving the podcasts too.</p>
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		<title>By: Oughtamiss</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oughtamiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2821</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Oh well. Thanks for checking!

Now I gotta get my hunter another 13 levels so I can use the guide!

Regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well. Thanks for checking!</p>
<p>Now I gotta get my hunter another 13 levels so I can use the guide!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: euripidesoutdps</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[euripidesoutdps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2820</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Unless they happen to have enough spare cash laying around that they could afford a mammoth but chose not to buy it yet :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless they happen to have enough spare cash laying around that they could afford a mammoth but chose not to buy it yet :P</p>
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		<title>By: euripidesoutdps</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[euripidesoutdps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2817</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I go into one RL meeting and the post comments section explodes! :)

I can unfortunately not do custom javascript on the blog in any form. Not even if I pay wordpress... the only way that would be able to happen is if I either migrated the blog to something like blogger.com, or paid for a server somewhere and installed the wordpress.org open source blogging platform, which allows complete control. Unfortunately, that means that every time wow.com links me, the site would go down (unless I had the kind of background horsepower to handle that kind of traffic, and that would cost even more).

This lack of custom javascript is the reason I can&#039;t have live tooltips to wowhead, but is also responsible for making the site basically hack proof. No nasty drive-by malware :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I go into one RL meeting and the post comments section explodes! :)</p>
<p>I can unfortunately not do custom javascript on the blog in any form. Not even if I pay wordpress&#8230; the only way that would be able to happen is if I either migrated the blog to something like blogger.com, or paid for a server somewhere and installed the wordpress.org open source blogging platform, which allows complete control. Unfortunately, that means that every time wow.com links me, the site would go down (unless I had the kind of background horsepower to handle that kind of traffic, and that would cost even more).</p>
<p>This lack of custom javascript is the reason I can&#8217;t have live tooltips to wowhead, but is also responsible for making the site basically hack proof. No nasty drive-by malware :)</p>
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		<title>By: Hugnir</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugnir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the quick reply. Well, I admit, I got lucky and got the drop on the first day, before they reduced the rates. Thanks for the response and for the awesome guide!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick reply. Well, I admit, I got lucky and got the drop on the first day, before they reduced the rates. Thanks for the response and for the awesome guide!!</p>
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		<title>By: eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2814</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the catch with the links.  They&#039;re working properly again.

I&#039;ve been told that wowhead tooltips don&#039;t work on Wordpress blogs, but I&#039;ll confirm that just to make sure.  I&#039;d love it if they did work, I think it would really improve the guide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the catch with the links.  They&#8217;re working properly again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been told that wowhead tooltips don&#8217;t work on WordPress blogs, but I&#8217;ll confirm that just to make sure.  I&#8217;d love it if they did work, I think it would really improve the guide.</p>
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		<title>By: eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2813</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Well, it is better, but this guide is based on gear that I think it would be reasonable to expect a hunter to obtain.  Battered Hilt costs and drop rates are not good enough (as far as I know) that I want to tell hunters they should rely on getting this weapon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is better, but this guide is based on gear that I think it would be reasonable to expect a hunter to obtain.  Battered Hilt costs and drop rates are not good enough (as far as I know) that I want to tell hunters they should rely on getting this weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugnir</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugnir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2810</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I just wanted to ask wouldn&#039;t Quel&#039;Delar Ferocity of the Scorn be better than Orca Hunter&#039;s Harpoon, got both and I&#039;m using the sword, is that a mistake?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I just wanted to ask wouldn&#8217;t Quel&#8217;Delar Ferocity of the Scorn be better than Orca Hunter&#8217;s Harpoon, got both and I&#8217;m using the sword, is that a mistake?</p>
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		<title>By: Oughtamiss</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oughtamiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2809</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... the javascript line didn&#039;t show up. Here it is with angle brackets replaced by square brackets. Just swap them back with the appropriate angle brackets.

included in head:
[script src=&quot;http://static.wowhead.com/widgets/power.js&quot;][/script]

Each link:
[a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45560&quot; target=&quot;_new&quot;]Spiked Deathdealers[/a]

Regards!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; the javascript line didn&#8217;t show up. Here it is with angle brackets replaced by square brackets. Just swap them back with the appropriate angle brackets.</p>
<p>included in head:<br />
[script src="http://static.wowhead.com/widgets/power.js"][/script]</p>
<p>Each link:<br />
[a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45560" target="_new"]Spiked Deathdealers[/a]</p>
<p>Regards!</p>
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		<title>By: Oughtamiss</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oughtamiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice guide! Just a couple suggestions:
Broken Links:
   The Nymph Heart Charm
   Broach of the Wailing Night

Also, would it be possible to create those cool WowHead popup links? IE, when you hover over a link, a small window pops up with summary information on the item. 

Here&#039;s how to do it:
Include this line in the page source (head section):

Form your Links like this:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47579&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Chitin Bracers&lt;/a&gt;

Change the class to modify the text coloring. q4 is epic, q3 is rare, etc.
When hovering over the link, a thumbnail image of the item will pop up along with a small pane showing item stats.

Far faster for users vs navigating to a new page for each item.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice guide! Just a couple suggestions:<br />
Broken Links:<br />
   The Nymph Heart Charm<br />
   Broach of the Wailing Night</p>
<p>Also, would it be possible to create those cool WowHead popup links? IE, when you hover over a link, a small window pops up with summary information on the item. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how to do it:<br />
Include this line in the page source (head section):</p>
<p>Form your Links like this:<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47579" rel="nofollow">Black Chitin Bracers</a></p>
<p>Change the class to modify the text coloring. q4 is epic, q3 is rare, etc.<br />
When hovering over the link, a thumbnail image of the item will pop up along with a small pane showing item stats.</p>
<p>Far faster for users vs navigating to a new page for each item.</p>
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		<title>By: euripidesoutdps</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[euripidesoutdps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2806</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Good catch- updated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch- updated.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2804</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Shouldn&#039;t HoF be HoR?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t HoF be HoR?</p>
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		<title>By: Arcturis we are waiting for you. &#171; Guntitan</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arcturis we are waiting for you. &#171; Guntitan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2770</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] Pre-Raid Hunter Gear Guide – Updated For 3.3 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pre-Raid Hunter Gear Guide – Updated For 3.3 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guntitan</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guntitan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2760</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This is the best most up to date gear guide ever. Thank you. I didn&#039;t know about the new/old items you can purchase with badges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best most up to date gear guide ever. Thank you. I didn&#8217;t know about the new/old items you can purchase with badges.</p>
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		<title>By: Quill2006</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2754</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quill2006]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2754</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re definitely right about it being possible to gear up elsewhere, and the hunter community certainly makes great gear lists that are really helpful.  I&#039;ve just found it&#039;s easier to convince folks to run ToC or Violet Hold to gear people than it is to convince them to run some of the longer instances.  And of course it&#039;s possible to do great DPS in ok gear; unfortunately, my experience was with folks who were a bit out of practice, and who were also in gear that was rather meh.  As you pointed out, if you can kill the bosses with ok gear, awesome!

Sorry, don&#039;t mean to derail this post!  I really found it very useful to see where I can find improvements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re definitely right about it being possible to gear up elsewhere, and the hunter community certainly makes great gear lists that are really helpful.  I&#8217;ve just found it&#8217;s easier to convince folks to run ToC or Violet Hold to gear people than it is to convince them to run some of the longer instances.  And of course it&#8217;s possible to do great DPS in ok gear; unfortunately, my experience was with folks who were a bit out of practice, and who were also in gear that was rather meh.  As you pointed out, if you can kill the bosses with ok gear, awesome!</p>
<p>Sorry, don&#8217;t mean to derail this post!  I really found it very useful to see where I can find improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: Ado</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2753</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I know the new instances got mobbed by just about everyone when they launched but three guidlies have this item.  In addition I have grouped with 4-5 others that have it already so the drops rate can&#039;t be that bad.  On the other hand I wonder if the rate was nerfed in the hotfix that came after the patch.  The fix reduced the chance of the new instances to drop epic items on trash.  The quest item is &quot;junk&quot; but its purple junk so I assume it was nerfed as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the new instances got mobbed by just about everyone when they launched but three guidlies have this item.  In addition I have grouped with 4-5 others that have it already so the drops rate can&#8217;t be that bad.  On the other hand I wonder if the rate was nerfed in the hotfix that came after the patch.  The fix reduced the chance of the new instances to drop epic items on trash.  The quest item is &#8220;junk&#8221; but its purple junk so I assume it was nerfed as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2752</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, I suppose it merits mentioning in some way or another.  I&#039;d like to learn more about the drop rates on the hilt before saying whether hunters should plan their gear choices around getting it or just hope to get it by rare chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I suppose it merits mentioning in some way or another.  I&#8217;d like to learn more about the drop rates on the hilt before saying whether hunters should plan their gear choices around getting it or just hope to get it by rare chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://outdps.com/?p=1699#comment-2751</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re very welcome!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re very welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Eidotrope</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eidotrope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Quill.  Yeah, I agree that the new instances require a bit more out of people.  I&#039;ve tried to keep this guide just about gear (and not dps), but it does merit saying that you should be doing 1.5k when you start old heroics, 2k for H ToC5 and 2.5k for the new heroics.  That may sound snobbish, but it&#039;s not at all hard to do if you follow the excellent advice found in the online hunter communities.  It&#039;s entirely possible to do 3k in pre-HToC5 gear.

Because of that, I&#039;d also say that it&#039;s not so much gearing up in ToC5 first but being able to meet those dps benchmarks that matters for when you can start the 3.3 heroics.  You can skip gearing up in HToC5 if your groupmates have enough skill to compensate for not having the ilvl 219 gear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Quill.  Yeah, I agree that the new instances require a bit more out of people.  I&#8217;ve tried to keep this guide just about gear (and not dps), but it does merit saying that you should be doing 1.5k when you start old heroics, 2k for H ToC5 and 2.5k for the new heroics.  That may sound snobbish, but it&#8217;s not at all hard to do if you follow the excellent advice found in the online hunter communities.  It&#8217;s entirely possible to do 3k in pre-HToC5 gear.</p>
<p>Because of that, I&#8217;d also say that it&#8217;s not so much gearing up in ToC5 first but being able to meet those dps benchmarks that matters for when you can start the 3.3 heroics.  You can skip gearing up in HToC5 if your groupmates have enough skill to compensate for not having the ilvl 219 gear.</p>
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		<title>By: Ado</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget to mention the final item reward from the quest item &quot;Battered Hilt&quot; that has a chance to drop in the heroic mode of the three new IC instances.  The quest reward that hunters would most like is a ilvl 251 2H sword.  Its also of note that the quest item is BoE so can be purchased.  Going for 9-10K gold on my server as of this week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to mention the final item reward from the quest item &#8220;Battered Hilt&#8221; that has a chance to drop in the heroic mode of the three new IC instances.  The quest reward that hunters would most like is a ilvl 251 2H sword.  Its also of note that the quest item is BoE so can be purchased.  Going for 9-10K gold on my server as of this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Bristal</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bristal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eidotrope, you are at the top of my hunter blog list and you continue to provider great information very quickly.  Thanks so much for your hard work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eidotrope, you are at the top of my hunter blog list and you continue to provider great information very quickly.  Thanks so much for your hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: euripidesoutdps</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[euripidesoutdps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, fixed the broken link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, fixed the broken link.</p>
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		<title>By: Quill2006</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quill2006]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The link for the Pauldrons of Concealed Loathing is not functioning.  

Other than that, really helpful!  My guild is too small to run raids as a guild, but a few of us are getting invited to the occasional raid with some friendly guilds, and I&#039;d like to be geared enough that I get invited back!  

Just a few thoughts on the new instance:  
We ran the new normal last night with 3 well-geared (average ilvl over 200) 80s (myself, the tank, and the healer) and two 80s mainly wearing blues and a few purples (two guildies who are too busy with school to play much) and we managed to get through everything despite a few wipes and a fair number of deaths until the end bit of the Halls of Reflection with the Litch King; we just didn&#039;t have the DPS to take down all the mobs fast enough.  

If you&#039;re considering running the normal with some guildies to gear them, or running it yourself with mid-level gear, head back to TOC first to build up your survivability.  I&#039;d say all 3 dps need to be doing at least 2k dps in a high movement multi-target fight before you&#039;ll be ok; I was getting up to about 3k and near 4k on other bosses but the end fight has very little down time so I ended up in viper for some shots and everything has to be taken down quickly, and since the other two were doing about 1.5k dps, we decided to call it a night.  

My perception after running the normal a few times and the first two parts of the heroic twice is that the ICC 5man normal is designed to be beaten by people who were running HToC, and that the heroic is doable by folks who&#039;ve got a mix of HToC and raid gear, because Blizz wants people to be able to take it down after gearing up in the normal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link for the Pauldrons of Concealed Loathing is not functioning.  </p>
<p>Other than that, really helpful!  My guild is too small to run raids as a guild, but a few of us are getting invited to the occasional raid with some friendly guilds, and I&#8217;d like to be geared enough that I get invited back!  </p>
<p>Just a few thoughts on the new instance:<br />
We ran the new normal last night with 3 well-geared (average ilvl over 200) 80s (myself, the tank, and the healer) and two 80s mainly wearing blues and a few purples (two guildies who are too busy with school to play much) and we managed to get through everything despite a few wipes and a fair number of deaths until the end bit of the Halls of Reflection with the Litch King; we just didn&#8217;t have the DPS to take down all the mobs fast enough.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re considering running the normal with some guildies to gear them, or running it yourself with mid-level gear, head back to TOC first to build up your survivability.  I&#8217;d say all 3 dps need to be doing at least 2k dps in a high movement multi-target fight before you&#8217;ll be ok; I was getting up to about 3k and near 4k on other bosses but the end fight has very little down time so I ended up in viper for some shots and everything has to be taken down quickly, and since the other two were doing about 1.5k dps, we decided to call it a night.  </p>
<p>My perception after running the normal a few times and the first two parts of the heroic twice is that the ICC 5man normal is designed to be beaten by people who were running HToC, and that the heroic is doable by folks who&#8217;ve got a mix of HToC and raid gear, because Blizz wants people to be able to take it down after gearing up in the normal.</p>
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		<title>By: euripidesoutdps</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[euripidesoutdps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fixed it for him. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fixed it for him. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: SaSSafraS1232</title>
		<link>http://outdps.com/2009/12/11/pre-raid-hunter-gear-guide-updated-for-3-3/#comment-2740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SaSSafraS1232]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sphere of red dragon blood has 50 hit (not 5). Otherwise this is an excellent reference!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sphere of red dragon blood has 50 hit (not 5). Otherwise this is an excellent reference!</p>
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