Comments on: Tentative Hunter Changes in 3.3!

By: Eidotrope

Eidotrope — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:41:27 +0000

MD never seemed to work very well with Volley (in my opinion). With this change I imagine we’ll be asked to, say, MD+Volley for tanks trying to hold agro for aoe (on whelps for example). I also hope the MD change will help with the fact that even Volleying in Viper can pull mobs off a pet’s Thunderstomp agro.

But otherwise, yeah, I’m going to miss the old MD for pulling.

By: Thionis

Thionis — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:18:00 +0000

The misdirect change sounds like a positive change to me because like Pike said nothing happens UNTIL you start firing. Plus now we all can simultaneously put up MDs. Jurgwena I definitely can see how the avoidance change would hurt in certain situations but how often do you and your pet hang out under a rain of fire/blizzard/FoK cloud. You pet usually has as much health and armor as you, now with survivability cooldowns and mend pet your pet shouldnt just die off from random splash or AoE. I can see how in a BG you could get messed up running into a cloud of multiple AoEs but it sounds sort of unlikely

By: jurgwena

jurgwena — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:32:37 +0000

The avoidance change is a disaster for pvp, I’m really stunned that Blizzard would even consider it.

By: Joeboy

Joeboy — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:19:22 +0000

I reckon having a “tricks of the trade” type of ability where a full 15 seconds of dps agro transferred to the target will be a better modification than a hunter’s 3.3 verison of MD.

including a 1.5sec GCD, you are looking at approx 3 shots invoking the global cool down and about 2 auto shots supposing a 2 sec ranged weap speed.

that’s what I reckon anywayz

By: Pike

Pike — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:37:50 +0000

Well, if you read the ability closely, you’ll see that it says the four-second timer doesn’t start until you fire a threat-generating attack. So, it’s still basically the same deal =P

By: Phyllixia

Phyllixia — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:00:07 +0000

Agreed – pulls and mid-fight MDs will be harder with only a 4sec window. The only good thing I can see is that things like Explosive will work with MD.

Avoidance – definitely a nerf for PvP. The only fight I EVER have problems with in PvE is Mimiron, so I don’t think it’s worth the change, unless Blizz are designing fights in Icecrown with a lot of AoE.

By: Lyraat

Lyraat — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:19:02 +0000

I disagree on the MD change. It doesn’t change how we MD during a fight (fire, fire, MD, fire, fire, etc), but it will make pulls much trickier. Sometimes it takes 4 seconds to MD, run into range of the boss, and hit the boss (shot travel time). And we can’t prep for adds; MD’ing Anub adds is gonna suck.

I don’t understand this change. MD is a great ability as it is. All this just so a target can get simultaneous MDs? Fail.

The Avoidance change is nice for PvE. I wonder if 2/3 Avoidance will keep pets alive.