Comments on: Slowly but Surely, Beastmastery is Gaining!

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:54:25 +0000

A huge part of DPS in any spec is knowledge of its rotation and cooldown usage.

By: Thionis

Thionis — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:29:21 +0000

Expect 3.2.2 and patches to follow to promote BM heavily. All the gear from TotC seems to favor AP not Agi, which from what I have learned is the leaning for BM hunters. Although I dont notice a large difference on the spreadsheet with AP gems over Agi.
–T9 set bonus = BM heavy
On a side note I did VoA and Ulduar last night and was BM for most of the night if i recall, I actually was quite impressed with myself :D
I’m using a worm because of our usual lack of armor debuff so my dps is lower in that respec but I still wasn’t dead last as I expected. I did a lot less than usual as SV though. I need practice also :P

By: Pike

Pike — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:00:43 +0000

Last I checked Devilsaur > Raptor > Wolf for Beast Mastery.

Though wolf may inch up come the Bestial Wrath changes.

By: TJ

TJ — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:35:22 +0000

3.2.2… got it.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:44:14 +0000

3.2 buffed lock and load, and 3.2.2 is going to nerf armor pen. For most levels of gear that I’ve checked, SV will perform slightly better then MM.

By: TJ

TJ — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:37:12 +0000

Ok… this is a post related to BM hunters, but…

“All the “fair weather” beast masters moved on to survival, and then marks, and now, it seems, back to survival”.

“back to survival”? why ? what is going on with survivel spec? all Hunters that I know are MM spec lovers. What is going on with Surv spec?

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:16:50 +0000

Does that work in combat? If so, that would be a game changer :P

By: Gnorf

Gnorf — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:13:35 +0000

Devilsaur, meet Baby Spice.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:44:26 +0000

They also stop attacking when they change size so they can reposition their big butts into a void zone. Personally, I’d take the second highest theoretical DPS pet that won’t do that and go with it instead. I believe that’s (ugh) a wolf again.

By: Kheldul

Kheldul — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:26:38 +0000

Well, in *theory*, the Devilsaur is the thing to have. I enjoyed mine in the day.

However, in *practice*, the Devilsaur is a pain because of their hitbox size. Large hitbox == eat all the AoE and stuff on the ground. Dead pet != “top BM dps”.

By: kaskie

kaskie — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:30:05 +0000

I don’t miss BM as much as I thought I would. Mostly because I don’t really like any of the exotic pets, least of all devilsaurs… is it possible to have top BM dps without an exotic pet?

By: Rilgon Arcsinh

Rilgon Arcsinh — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:00:21 +0000

BM is an universally loved spec for most hunters.

Fixed that for you.

By: Rilgon Arcsinh

Rilgon Arcsinh — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:59:43 +0000

I show slightly less (about 1.5% at a 50:50 ratio), and the higher the pet’s damage in ratio to the master’s, the lower the bonus from TBW gets.

By: Nakaya_Kilrogg

Nakaya_Kilrogg — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:56:20 +0000

I miss BM. It’ll be awesome when/if I can get back to it and still top those meters.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:43:30 +0000

One of the funniest tags I’ve seen on a forum was (and I forget who and where) “Survival before it was cool” :)

By: Saranette

Saranette — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:35:57 +0000

See, I had always thought it was called adapting =P

Granted, Survival was my primary play choice over the years so while it’s nice to see it in the prime, it does feel kinda sad being lumped into the majority now.

(great blog/podcast, this does fill the void for me from when BRK quit months back.)

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:48:37 +0000

I might have chosen my words better, but yeah, nothing negative about picking the highest performing spec. That’s what this blog is all about.

By: xWarrior

xWarrior — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:34:59 +0000

If the OP is not referring to the hunters who spec’d of out BM to raid in a negative way, then I apologize for my reply. :)

By: Pike

Pike — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:28:28 +0000

I’ve got to admit, one of the nice things about playing a “nerfed spec” is that… more often than not… the things you see on the PTR are buffs! =)

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:24:53 +0000

I certainly am in the same boat, but I believe that the “fair weather” term applies, and is not at all harsh. The only reason that it has a negative connotation is because “fair weather friends” are not true friends, but we’re talking about a spec, which is more like a tool than a friend. If you can’t use a screwdriver to do the job, get the hammer out, and you’re not hurting anyone. Except whatever you’re trying to unscrew.

By: xWarrior

xWarrior — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:09:52 +0000

I think labeling folks who respec’d out of BM to SV or MM for their raiding spec as “fair weather” is harsh. We respec’d to a higher DPS spec so that we are invited to raids and certain instance runs. I will submit that the majority of folks who are raiding as SV or MM has BM as their second spec. BM is an universally loved spec for all hunters. Whether one raid as one is irrelevant to their affinity to BM.

We respec not because we are following fads, but we do so to keep up with progression.

By: Kheldul

Kheldul — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:48:44 +0000

I'm theory-crafting it as a smidge over a 2% dps gain.