Comments on: Marksman Specs and Glyphs!

By: Alternate

Alternate — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 01:56:52 +0000

Nah, seriously when raiding your crit chance is guna be more than probably over 60% no need to have more crit.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:19:15 +0000

Right now, chimera beats TSA for me, but I’m nowhere near where most marks hunters are on ArP.

By: Rilla

Rilla — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:54:16 +0000

Serpent Sting, Steady Shot & Trueshot Aura is currently the best glyph combination for me according to femaledwarf calculations.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:28:08 +0000

I loled :)

By: Nassira

Nassira — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:18:30 +0000

What do you get when you cross an Arms warrior with multiple mobs?

A dead Arms warrior.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:39:30 +0000

Because the increased length of the serpent sting increases the serpent damage of chimera shot.

By: Nelson

Nelson — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:29:15 +0000

might be a stupid question …
but why we need glyph of serpent sting to make the duration longer if our chimera shot can keep refreshing the sting ?

By: brandon

brandon — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:18:27 +0000

I would reccomend you downloading Shandara’s spreadsheet and play around with differnt specs before you assume and test on target dummies wich spec is better.It takes everything into consideration about your Hunter wich should not lead you to a poor mistake if following properly.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:18:34 +0000

I agree- I wrote that part a while ago before someone had figured out how to make the aimed shot glyph work. I’ll go edit the post.

By: Sydvicious

Sydvicious — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:58:22 +0000

You guys all know the steady shot glyph doesn’t work if you spec marked for death, right? just wanna clear that up for anyone that doesn’t know.

By: Sydvicious

Sydvicious — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:49:13 +0000

Respectfully disagree about aimed shot glyph being listed as one of the ones not to take. this glyph smoothes out the MM rotation with its 20% reduction on the CD. It also allows for more instant shots while running for your life, which is pretty much the norm on boss fights since Ulduar. Perhaps not a clear choice for third, but should be listed among the viable choices. Also, glyph of the hawk is trash and haste capped MM hunters don’t seem to get it. You get 4 steady shots with almost no haste as chim comes off cd, or you can cap your haste, get 4 steady shots and stand there waiting half a second for chim to come off cd, effectively wasting nearly 400 points of gear itemization that would better serve you as crit, arpen or attack power. Great website and appreciate the hard work gone into it.

By: scott

scott — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:22:00 +0000

the only issue with your aimed and chimera glyphs is the GCD is on a 1.5 second timer, which also puts chimera and aimed shot at a conflict, hence the very low latency required to be able to use it, if you are even a 10th of a second late, under 150ms, it’s not even worth your time to get it.

steady shot, serpent sting, imp aspect <3

though i am ArP marks.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:13:18 +0000

Make sure you have an accurate depiction of your raid buffs and debuffs loaded into femaledwarf.com- if you run with a DK or shammie that provides a 10% buff, then you might find different results. Also, be aware that raid dummies are not a representative of your real DPS- things scale differently when you’re unbuffed.

By: Malgior

Malgior — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:54:44 +0000

After loading my character into Femaledwarf.com, I found that Glyph of the Hawk, and Glyph of Trueshot Aura come in 2nd and 3rd for dps. (at least for my gear and spec) Tested it out on the Raid Dummy and got mixed results from previously being glyphed in Steady shot and Hunters Mark, but the majority of the time, TSA and Hawk was higher.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:25:32 +0000

Trueshot aura does not stack with the DK or Shammie 10% AP bonus, while silencing shot does damage to the boss. I just macro silencing shot into all my other shots so it goes off automatically (unless it’s needed)

By: Fanida

Fanida — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:34:32 +0000

I’m just curious about u’re choise to spend a talent point in silencing shoot and not in trueshot aura, since from my experience, silencing shot isn’t that resoursefull in raids or instances, while trueshot aura boosts u’re attack power

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:11:56 +0000

Those points are certainly not the most DPS, but they’re more than arcane shot, and not having arcane shot in your rotation will actually boost their DPS to the point where it might be worth it. Assuming you have no mana issues, I honestly can’t think of anywhere else to dump them. Unless you’ve drawn the short straw and are speccing improved mark.

By: modjaji

modjaji — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:59:56 +0000

Since Steady Shot is our weakest shot, and the Chimera Glyph is said to change the rotation (fewer Steady Shots), does it make any sense to spec the Improved Steady Shot talent?

If not, where might those points be better spent?

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:33:47 +0000

To get L&L, you have to forgo chimera, afaik. As for generally how arcane and marks get along, take a look at this.

By: Thionis

Thionis — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:15:14 +0000

oh boy is this going to be a bit of a reach but im going to go out on a limb and ask. how big of a role is arcane shot in a marks hunters rotation. obviously its magic damage so it wont benefit from armor pen and such, and eventually it gets neglected all together by armor pen builds. The heart of my question stems from lock and load effecting arcane shot. Now don’t laugh yet..well maybe a little, but if on fights like auriaya were you stand at min range. couldnt you drop a immolation/explosive trap proc a LnL and burst 3 instant arcanes. I would think with points in Imp. Arcane Shot like you suggest that this wouldnt be a horrible idea since all you need to ditch is focus fire, imp aspect of the hawk, and silencing shot. I just was messing around with the talent calculator and thought it might be an interesting idea

By: Ritalian

Ritalian — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:39:01 +0000

Good article!

For what it’s worth

Serpent
Chimera
Kill

Show as the best 3 combination for me from the website DPS numbers. I do currently run with Aimed instead of Chimera….but that’s because I can’t find the glyph on our server :(

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:44:52 +0000

that would probably be true, but aimed shots only do a little more damage than steady shot, which is what you’d be firing when aimed is on cooldown. The steady shot glyph is a must have for ArP builds, and whether the aimed shot glyph or glyph of the hawk is more DPS would be the question.

By: Dhorvin

Dhorvin — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:38:42 +0000

I would think that the Aimed Shot glyph would also increase in value with an ArP build, although I don’t have anywhere near enough ArP to find out for myself.

By: euripidesoutdps

euripidesoutdps — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:54:01 +0000

I didn’t say it doesn’t increase DPS, but does this rotation change justify the loss of the other ones? The spreadsheet doesn’t think so, but I’m open to other data.

By: Espy

Espy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:16:54 +0000

I will have to disagree with you on the aimed shot glyph.

I’m currently using glyphs of SerpSting, Aimed, Chimera with an AGI MM Build with Improved Arcane Shot. Why aimed? Because of the reduced cooldown of 2 seconds.

Now if you actually try this rotation of SerpSting->Chimera->Aimed->Arcane->SS->SS->Chimera->Aimed->Arcane…etc. You will notice how smooth the rotation is without interrupts. You won’t have to make that split second decision on whether to cast a chimera shot or an aimed shot etc.

Chimera shot = 10 sec – 1 sec = 9 sec
Aimed shot – 10 sec – 2 sec = 8 sec
Arcane shot = 6 sec

You can see how my rotation works based on the shot cooldowns.